RE: MS Windows and Unicode 4.0 ?

From: Arcane Jill (arcanejill@ramonsky.com)
Date: Wed Dec 03 2003 - 05:09:42 EST

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    Actually, a number of points have been made in the course of this
    thread. Of course it is true that Apple's Last Resort font doesn't
    display every character with an approximation of its shape, I
    acknowledge that. I still think it's a lot better than nothing though.
    But - to clarify my expectations of an operating system - I actually
    DON'T care if it won't display Telugu correctly. I don't care if it
    doesn't display Japanese properly. Or Russian. I am unlikely to /start/
    caring about these things unless for some reason I should decide to
    start learning those languages.

    I also don't necessarily expect to find fancy versions of the Latin
    script. These calligraphic (is that a word?) creations should quite
    rightly be considered the creation of the artist, and subject to the
    usual copyright laws.

    But...

    I /_DO_/ expect my own language, and also the symbols I encounter every
    day in my culture, to be available in some form, on an OS bought in my
    own country. I don't believe that anyone could rightly argue that, for
    instance, musical symbols were "esoteric". They're a standard part of my
    culture. And yet, I still can't put a treble clef in my document using
    the standard Windows fonts, and nor can I put it on a web site and
    believe that it will be viewed correctly by most western viewers. This
    /_should_/ be as straightforward as putting these letters into this
    email. Maybe fancy versions could be considered "added value", but a
    simple, plain, unadorned musical symbol set? That should just /be/
    there. These symbols have been used for /centuries/. Mostly they're just
    blobs with tails. That they occur in the handwriting of Bach and
    Beethoven implies to me that there shouldn't even be any copyright
    problems (unless, as I say, you're talking about fancy versions). By
    exactly the same reasoning, I expect all the math symbols to be there
    too, including mathematical alphanumeric symbols. This is not a strange
    or exotic requirement, it's just a part of living in this western
    culture and wanting to use they symbols of my culture. All these
    arguments about how I don't really need Telugu or whatever are probably
    true, but, /come on guys/, there are symbols we /do /use, frequently, at
    least on paper, that we can't use on the web. That has got to be wrong.

    Jill



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