From: Kent Karlsson (kent.karlsson14@comhem.se)
Date: Mon Jul 09 2007 - 11:07:36 CDT
They may not "attach" (in a ligature-like fashion, like cedilla
attaches to a c or an s), but otherwise any base letter **should**
work, placementwise. It may not look ideal, but **should** look
roughly ok.
If it does not, it is a flaw in the display system, not in the
Unicode standard.
Likewise, reordrant vowels **should** reorder around any base
character. There is no need to add any characters for this, but
display systems may need to be updated.
/kent k
> -----Original Message-----
> From: unicode-bounce@unicode.org
> [mailto:unicode-bounce@unicode.org] On Behalf Of Brian Wilson
> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 5:22 PM
> To: verdy_p@wanadoo.fr; 'Anousak Souphavanh'
> Cc: unicode@unicode.org
> Subject: RE: Phetsarat font, Lao unicode
>
> Philippe,
>
> The problem of using any x or cross is that the vowels will
> not attach to
> it.
>
>
> Brian Wilson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Philippe Verdy [mailto:verdy_p@wanadoo.fr]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 6:21 AM
> To: 'Brian Wilson'; 'Anousak Souphavanh'
> Cc: unicode@unicode.org
> Subject: RE: Phetsarat font, Lao unicode
>
> Is it really a Latin "x" (i.e. with serifs, and possible
> capitalization?) I
> think it looks more like a symbol, like the multiplication sign "×",
> possibly larger, andwith the two strokes forming the
> diagonals of a perfect
> square, similar in spirit to the dotted circle symbol used in Unicode
> charts).
>
> Currently, Unicode does not formally have a common code for
> denoting a base
> letter placeholder. If it existed, then it would just have to
> look like a
> dotted circle for Common diacritics, and possibly here as a
> cross with Lao
> vowels. But anyway, such cross symbols could be used as well as the
> placeholder in Latin notations, and Lao could use the dotted
> circle as well.
>
> So why not using one of the existing cross symbols instead of
> an "x" which
> may not look correct with Lao vowels, due to its possible
> serifs, possible
> variable angle of the two strokes (not perfect square),
> possible variable
> weight, possible rounded strokes (and additional internal loops in
> handwritten styles), and possible junctions in cursive forms?
>
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : unicode-bounce@unicode.org
> [mailto:unicode-bounce@unicode.org] De la
> > part de Brian Wilson
> > Envoyé : mardi 3 juillet 2007 06:17
> > À : 'Anousak Souphavanh'
> > Cc : unicode@unicode.org
> > Objet : Phetsarat font, Lao unicode
> >
> > Dear Anousak,
> >
> > In typing dictionaries and other pedagogical material in Lao it is
> > frequently necessary to write the vowels by themselves. Lao
> convention
> > uses
> > an 'x' for the blank consonant. So we have sala 'i' sala
> 'ii' sala 'u'
> > sala
> > 'uu' with an 'x' holding the consonant place. Could you add this
> > possibility for Lao unicode as it is the convention.
> Currently this is
> > not
> > possible as 'x' is a latin letter and the Lao vowels do not
> recognize it.
> > We could either train the vowels to recognize Latin 'x' or
> add a Lao 'x'
> > to
> > unicode as a Lao consonant.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> >
> > Brian Wilson
> > PS I have been sidetracked, but am still working on the Lao
> > alphabetization
> > rules for sorting in Open office.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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