RE: Arabic aleph representation of glyphs

From: CE Whitehead (cewcathar@hotmail.com)
Date: Sat Mar 06 2010 - 15:32:27 CST

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    Hi!
    Thanks very much to both Maher and Khaled for your great information!

     

     

    Best,

     

    C. E. Whitehead

    cewcathar@hotmail.com
    > Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 07:08:20 +0200
    > From: khaledhosny@eglug.org
    > To: maher.al-nubani@oracle.com
    > CC: cewcathar@hotmail.com; unicode@unicode.org; ntounsi@gmail.com; rm459@cam.ac.uk; prilop4321@trashmail.net
    > Subject: Re: Arabic aleph representation of glyphs
    >
    > On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 03:45:54PM -0800, Maher Alnubani wrote:
    > >
    > >
    > > On 3/5/2010 2:11 PM, CE Whitehead wrote:
    > >
    > > Hi, thanks very much. You did answer my questions. I still have one
    > > more question: would any literate Arabic speaker always type the tanween
    > > al-fatah logically after the aleph seat?
    > >
    > > Yes.
    > >
    > > (Because of course the tanween al-fatah, unlike Arabic vowel diacritics
    > > elsewhere, should precede the aleph consonant seat in a visual display and
    > > not follow it--that is, in an rtl context, it should be displayed slightly
    > > to the right of the aleph--that is how I was taught and indeed how it
    > > appears in the combined character in the Unicode extended characters, and
    > > indeed that is how it appears when I type it in following the aleph [and of
    > > course, it appears this way when I type it in before too].)
    > >
    > > Well, TANWEEN AL-FATH normally appears on top of the ALEF (or the TAH MARBUTAH)
    > > not before or after it. But, in standard Arabic writing TANWEEN is the last
    > > thing to write in a word.
    >
    > Not true, this is actually is debatable. Though the wide practice today
    > is to type the tanween after the alef (thus on top of it), still many
    > people type it before the alef since the preceding letter is the actual
    > seat of tanween (i.e. treating all tanween the same wither it is fath or
    > not). Traditionally, in hand written calligraphy, tanween al-fath comes
    > to the write of the alef, thus essentially preceding not following it.
    >
    > Regards,
    > Khaled
    >
    > --
    > Khaled Hosny
    > Arabic localiser and member of Arabeyes.org team
    > Free font developer
    >
                                                   

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