Re: COMBINING OVER MARK?

Le 01/10/13 15:39, Philippe Verdy a écrit :
> In plain text, we would just use the [s|z] notation without care about
> presentation & font sizes used in the rendered rich text page. It
> correctly represent the intended alternation without giving more
> importance to one base letter.
> But it you wanted to allow plain text search with collators, you would
> need to choose one as the base letter and the other one as a combining
> diacritic with ignored higher-level differences, using either US
> English or British/International English to fix the base letter (the
> other letter would be an interlinear annotation for the second
> orthography, either above or below the base letter).
>

Interlinear annotation... Yes, of course, you could write
anathemati<U+FFF9>z<U+FFFA>s<U+FFFB>e. Halas, the characters
     U+FFF9 INTERLINEAR ANNOTATION ANCHOR
     U+FFFA INTERLINEAR ANNOTATION SEPARATOR
     U+FFFB INTERLINEAR ANNOTATION TERMINATOR
are not supported by any software I know.

>
> 2013/10/1 Steffen Daode <sdaoden_at_gmail.com <mailto:sdaoden_at_gmail.com>>
>
> Khaled Hosny <khaledhosny_at_eglug.org
> <mailto:khaledhosny_at_eglug.org>> wrote:
> |Using TeX:
> |
> | \def\s{${}^{\rm s}_{\rm z}$}
>
> Using groff:
>
> #!/bin/sh -
>
> cat << \! > t.tr <http://t.tr>
> .de zs
> . nr #1 \\w'z'
> \\Z'\
> \\v'-.25v's\
> \\h'-\\n(#1u'\
> \\v'.5v'z\
> '\
> \\h'\\n(#1u'
> . rr #1
> ..
> Fraterni
> .zs
> e.
> !
>
> groff t.tr <http://t.tr> > t.ps <http://t.ps>
> ps2pdf t.ps <http://t.ps>
> rm t.tr <http://t.tr> t.ps <http://t.ps>
> exit 0
>
> (Can surely be tweaked.)
>
> |Regards,
> |Khaled
>
> Ciao,
>
> --steffen
>
>
> ---------- Message transféré ----------
> From: Khaled Hosny <khaledhosny_at_eglug.org
> <mailto:khaledhosny_at_eglug.org>>
> To: Leo Broukhis <leob_at_mailcom.com <mailto:leob_at_mailcom.com>>
> Cc: unicode Unicode Discussion <unicode_at_unicode.org
> <mailto:unicode_at_unicode.org>>
> Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 11:09:31 +0200
> Subject: Re: COMBINING OVER MARK?
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 05:51:09PM -0700, Leo Broukhis wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Attached is a part of page 36 of Henry Alford's *The Queen's
> English: a
> > manual of idiom and usage (1888)* [
> > http://archive.org/details/queensenglishman00alfo]
> >
> > Is the way to indicate alternative s/z spellings used there
> plain text
> > (arguably, if it can be done with a typewriter, it is plain text)
>
> I see a typeset book not an output of a typewriter.
>
> > or rich text (ignoring the font size of letters s and z)?
> >
> > If it's the latter, what's the markup to achieve it?
>
> Using TeX:
>
> \def\s{${}^{\rm s}_{\rm z}$}
>
> 49. How are we to decide between {\it s} and {\it z} in such
> words as
> anathemati\s{}e, cauteri\s{}e, criti\-ci\s{}e, deodori\s{}e,
> dogmati\s{}e,
> fraterni\s{}e, and the rest? Many of these are derived from Greek
> \bye
>
> Regards,
> Khaled
>
>
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