Re: Unified Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics—Missing Syllable Characters

Le 16/07/14 14:45, Jean-François Colson a écrit :
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> Le 15/07/14 04:07, Robert Wheelock a écrit :
>> Hello!
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> Hello
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>> I just started to make an ASDF layout for the Innuktitut syllabics
>> characters (in association with Fontboard).
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> Where can I find Fontboard’s official website ?
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>> The syllabic charcters are assigned to their (closest match) Innuit
>> Latin keys (/a/ on A, /pa/ on P, ...) as follows:
>>
>> VOWELS:
>> /ai/ (e) E /i/ I /u/ (o) U /a/ A
>>
>> INDEPENDENT CONSONANT
>> /h/ O
>>
>> -/AI/ SYLLABLES
>> /pai/ <SH>B /tai/ <SH>D /kai/ <SH>G /gai/ (tse) <SH>J
>> /mai/ <SH>? /nai/ <SH>~ /sai/ <SH>Z /lai/ <SH>|
>> /jai/ (ye) <SH>F /vai/ (fe) <SH>V /rai/ <SH>Q /lhai/ (lhe) <SH>{
>>
>> -/I/ SYLLABLES
>> /pi/ B /ti/ D /ki/ G /gi/ (tsi) J /mi/ / /ni/ ` /si/ Z
>> /li/ \
>> /ji/ (yi) F /vi/ (fi) V /ri/ Q /lhi/ [
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>> -/U/ SYLLABLES
>> /pu/ <SH>P /tu/ <SH>T /ku/ <SH>K /gu/ (tso) <SH>C
>> /mu/ <SH>M /nu/ <SH>N /su/ <SH>S /lu/ <SH>L
>> /ju/ (yo) <SH>Y /vu/ (fo) <SH>W /ru/ <SH>R /lhu/ (lho) <SH>}
>>
>> -/A/ SYLLABLES
>> /pa/ P /ta/ T /ka/ K /ga/ (tsa) C /ma/ M /na/ N /sa/ S
>> /la/ L
>> /ja/ (ya) Y /va/ (fa) W /ra/ R /lha/ ]
>>
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> I have a few questions:
> — How do you handle the final consonants?
> — How do you type long syllables (those with a dot above)? with a dead
> key or with the Alt Gr (= right Alt) key?
> — There are a few missing characters in your description:
> • ? : You could map it to Shift + ? (Shift + O).
> • ? ? ? ? (qai qi qu qa): You could map them to the still unused
> keys H and X.
> • ? ? ? ? (ngai ngi ngu nga): There’s no room left for them. If
> you applied your general scheme (pai = Shift + pi, pu = Shift + pa),
> you could move ? to Shift + ? and ? to Shift + ?. That way, the keys E
> and U could be freed to accept ? ? ? ?.
> • ? ? ? (nngi nngu nnga): I have no idea where you could put them.
> — ? replaces the ?. Aren’t there any question marks in Inuktitut?
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>> There are quite a few _/missing/_ syllablics characters:
>> ·The character for the syllable /lhai/ (lhe) (like a horizontally
>> mirrored /lhi/, or a rotated /lha/)
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> Once upon a time, the ai-pai-tai… syllables were discarded in
> Inuktitut because there weren’t enough room for the whole syllabary on
> the daisy wheel of an electric typewriter.
> Later, they were readopted in Nunavik, but not in Nunavut where ? is
> still written ??.
> Apparently, ? ? ? ? ? ? ? are used only at the West of Hudson’s Bay
> (in Nunavut). Therefore, there is no need for a lhai syllable.
> If you have examples of use of that syllable, please share them with
> us and the powers that be could perhaps investigate a little about it.
>
>
>> ·The characters for the entire /sp/- series (shown on Wikipedia’s
>> article on UCAS as copies of ZESS, Z, N, and Russian Cyrillic
>> I-OBROTNOYE)
>
> I suppose ? and ?, which are used for l and r in some languages, come
> from there, and their finals, ? and ?, were not forgotten.
> But you’re right : those letters, which look like Z, reversed Z, N,
> and ? were completely forgotten.
> Perhaps they were judged too archaic to be encoded.
> But now, Unicode includes hieroglyphs, cuneiforms, and many other old
> scripts, so I think those characters could be considered for a proposal.
>

I wonder whether there are any relations between those missing syllables
and the Cree ? ? ? ? (she shi sho sha).

>
>> Where would y’all think about where to place these still-missing UCAS
>> characters?!?!
>> Thank You!
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