Re: Re: Enclosing BANKNOTE emoji?

From: Leo Broukhis <leob_at_mailcom.com>
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2016 10:35:12 -0800

It doesn't have to.

How does the system distinguish between US and Canada dollar in plain text?
Both are <$>.

Leo

On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Chris Jacobs <chris.jacobs_at_xs4all.nl>
wrote:

> How would the system distinguish between US and Canada dollar?
>
> Both would be <$> + U+FE0F VS16
>
> Chris
>
>
> Leo Broukhis schreef op 2016-03-01 19:10:
>
> I have a less disruptive proposal than to encode an unprecedented
> combining emoji.
> How about adding variation sequences <currency sign> + U+FE0F VS16 to
> signify BANKNOTE with <currency sign> ?
>
> Leo
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 1:38 AM, "Jörg Knappen" <jknappen_at_web.de> wrote:
>
>> For the pound emoji, throw in ~90M Egyptians.
>>
>> --Jörg Knappen
>>
>> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 09. Februar 2016 um 23:46 Uhr
>> *Von:* "Leo Broukhis" <leob_at_mailcom.com>
>> *An:* "Mark Davis ☕️" <mark_at_macchiato.com>
>> *Cc:* "unicode Unicode Discussion" <unicode_at_unicode.org>
>> *Betreff:* Re: Enclosing BANKNOTE emoji?
>> The emojiexpress.com site is useful to check which new emoji or
>> combinations people actually use, but the stats are likely skewed by only
>> measuring input from one platform.
>>
>> Another way to look at the emojitracker.com stats:
>>
>> 339M people in the Eurozone : 389K uses of Euro emoji
>> 126M people in Japan : 354K uses of Yen emoji
>> 140M people in UK + Turkey (likely users of the Pound emoji as a stand-in
>> for Lira) : 515K uses of pound emoji
>>
>> The total is 605M people : 1258K uses of non-dollar emoji
>> Assuming the same average frequency of use, 2933K uses of the dollar
>> emoji would be produced by 1411M people, out of which us + canada + mexico
>> + australia (500M) + other countries using $ as (part of) the sign for
>> their currency are way less than a half. This means that substantially more
>> than 500M people are using the dollar emoji by default, instead of emoji of
>> their national currencies. Assuming a lesser frequency of use will result
>> in a greater estimate of the affected population.
>>
>> Leo
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 8:51 AM, Mark Davis ☕️ <mark_at_macchiato.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Look at http://www.emojixpress.com/stats/. The stats are different,
>>> since they collect data from keyboards not twitter posts, but they have a
>>> nice button to view only the news emoji.
>>>
>>> (The numbers on the new ones will be smaller, just because it takes time
>>> for systems to support them, and people to start using them. However, they
>>> bear out my predication that the most popular would be the eyes-rolling
>>> face).
>>>
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Leo Broukhis <leob_at_mailcom.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A caveat about using emojitracker.com : it doesn't count newer emoji
>>>> yet (e.g. U+1F37E bottle with popping cork is absent), thus, when they are
>>>> added, their counts will be skewed.
>>>>
>>>> Leo
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 2:00 AM, Leo Broukhis <leob_at_mailcom.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for the links, quite mesmerizing!
>>>>>
>>>>> On emojitracker.com (cumulative counts, but only on twitter, AFAICS),
>>>>> U+1F4B5 ($) had quite a respectable count of 2932622 (well above the middle
>>>>> of the page, around 70%ile), U+1F4B7 (pound) had 514536 (around 30%ile),
>>>>> and U+1F4B4 and U+1F4B6 had around 353K and 388K resp. (around 20%ile, but
>>>>> 10x more than the lowest counts, and about the same frequency as various
>>>>> individual clock faces).
>>>>>
>>>>> It is quite evident that the dollar banknote emoji serves as a
>>>>> stand-in for at least half a dozen of various currencies.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 10:25 PM, Mark Davis ☕️ <mark_at_macchiato.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would suggest that you first gather statistics and present
>>>>>> statistics on how often the current combinations are used compared to other
>>>>>> emoji, eg by consulting sources such as:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.emojixpress.com/stats/
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> http://emojitracker.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 8:34 PM, Leo Broukhis <leob_at_mailcom.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There are
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 💴 U+01F4B4 Banknote With Yen Sign
>>>>>>> 💵 U+01F4B5 Banknote With Dollar Sign
>>>>>>> 💶 U+01F4B6 Banknote With Euro Sign
>>>>>>> 💷 U+01F4B7 Banknote With Pound Sign
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is clearly an incomplete set. It makes sense to have a generic
>>>>>>> "enclosing banknote" emoji character which, when combined with a
>>>>>>> currency sign, would produce the corresponding banknote, to forestall
>>>>>>> requests for individual emoji for banknotes with remaining currency
>>>>>>> signs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Leo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

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