Re: Combining solidus above for transcription of poetic meter

From: Philippe Verdy <verdy_p_at_wanadoo.fr>
Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2017 20:23:16 +0100

An article for you to read that privides some basic guides and a
presentaiton of the concept and its use in HTML:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_character
Then look at CSS 2.0 for specifications.

In Unicode, 3 format control characters were encoded for this
(U+FFF9...U+FFFB), but that supports only a minimalist subset of the ruby
feature and which are (as far as I know) poorly supported in browsers
(almost no one use them, not even for the common ruby text used in Asian
languages, notably in Japanese for the Furigana notations using kanas above
sinographic Kanji text, or in Chinese for the Bopomofo or Latin notations
above sinographic text found in educational books for children).

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2017-03-17 20:16 GMT+01:00 Philippe Verdy <verdy_p_at_wanadoo.fr>:

> Final note: the HTML ruby syntax (their standard tags) is not supported by
> MediaWiki, for your example article in English Wikipedia (but there are
> some templates that could simulate ruby notation, using equivalent CSS to
> which the ruby notation should have a default mapping, as specified in an
> annex of the HTML standard suggesting a default CSS stylesheet for standard
> HTML tags).
>
> 2017-03-17 20:10 GMT+01:00 Philippe Verdy <verdy_p_at_wanadoo.fr>:
>
>> 2017-03-17 18:27 GMT+01:00 Julian Bradfield <jcb+unicode_at_inf.ed.ac.uk>:
>>
>>> If you are happy to use a typographically normal combining breve for
>>> the unstressed syllables, you should be happy to use a typographically
>>> normal acute accent for the stressed syllable.
>>>
>>
>> You've understood the reverse! the stressed syllable in those notation
>> uses a breve, the unstressed syllables use a slash/solidus (which many look
>> very similar to an acute accent, but means here exactly the opposite).
>> However using acute accents that are already used in many langauges for
>> vowel distinctions (independantly of stress) would cause problems.
>>
>> It would be better to use the IPA stress mark that looks like a vertical
>> tick just before the syllable (i.e. before its leading consonnant and not
>> on top of its central vowel): these marks are not combining, they are
>> regular spacing symbols.
>>
>> The proposal discusses about *some* specific use where symbols that look
>> like diacritics may be used in a row just above the actual text (in that
>> case it should not be confused with the actual accents).
>>
>> That's why I think this better fits with interlinear annotations (there
>> will be some vertical margin between the notation and the text using its
>> native diacritics, and the interlinear stress marks will align horizontally
>> without colliding wit h the text whose diacritics would have variable
>> placement, not aligned horizontally but depending on base letters or the
>> presence of other diacritics).
>>
>>
>>
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