L2/01-407

Minutes from the NCITS/L2 meeting # 186
Mountain View, November 6-9, 2001

2001-12-13

 

Meeting location:  Mountain View, CA.  Hosted by Microsoft

http://www.unicode.org/unicode/timesens/logistics-utc89.html

 

1.                Opening of L2 meeting - remarks from the chair

2.                Joint meeting with UTC

See L2/01-404 and L2/01-405

3.                Administrative agenda

3.1.           Attendance and membership

3.1.1.         Membership list

Apple, Compaq, HP, IBM, Microsoft, Oracle, PeopleSoft, Progress, RLG, SHARE, Sun, Sybase, Unicode, Unisys (14) .

3.1.2.         Members in jeopardy

Action item:  Sun, Oracle, and Share are in jeopardy, Cathy will write the letters

3.1.3.         Attendance

HP, IBM, Microsoft, Peoplesoft, RLG, Sybase, Unicode (7)

3.2.           Officers for L2

Arnold is out, Cathy Wissink has submitted the necessary documentation to NCITS. 

3.3.           Approval of meetings minutes from August 2001  [01-297]

The minutes were approved unanimously

3.4.           Action items follow-up  [SD-2]

See UTC minutes and new action item list

3.5.           Registration of new documents and assignment to the agenda

See L2/SD-3 for current document register

Added Registration application for ANSI/NISO Z39.47 L2/01-456

3.6.           Approval of agenda [01-406]

Added Registration application for ANSI/NISO Z39.47

Agenda is approved

3.7.           Next meetings

  UTC 90/L2 187 – February 11-14, 2001, Bay Area, host Sun or Microsoft.

  UTC 91/L2 188 – May 7-10, 2002, Pleasanton, host Peoplesoft

Added:

UTC 92/L2 189 – August 20-23, 2002, New Hampshire, host Compaq

UTC 93/L2 190 – November 5-8, 2002, Redmond, host Microsoft

Action items:
Uma update WG2 Dublin meeting in SC2 resolutions

Uma give Magda the dates for future SC2 and WG2 meetings

 

4.                Reports and liaisons

4.1.           SC2 and SC2/WG2 meetings in Singapore

L2/01-391

Secretariat report to the SC2 plenary in Singapore
October 18-19, 2001

SC2 N3552

2001-09-28

admin

L2/01-392

Resolutions from the SC2/WG2 meeting in Singapore, October 15-18, 2001

SC2/WG2 N3568
SC2 N2404R

2001-10-31

admin

L2/01-393

Resolutions from the SC2 meeting in Singapore, October 18-19, 2001

SC2 N3574

2001-10-23

admin

L2/01-395

Report from the SC2/WG2 meeting in Singapore

Asmus Freytag

2001-10-20

396-D

 

Reviewed SC2 resolutions:  WG3 is in maintenance mode.  Michel added as liaison to ISOC/IETF

 

4.2.           JTC1 meeting in Hawaii (Ksar)

Ksar reported: 

New chair of JTC1 is Scott Jameson (HP), vice chair is Dave Thewlis.

 ISO/IEC 8859-x standards will be available free on the ITTF web site

JTC1 has created a new category for “stabilized standards” as proposed by L2 in NCITS

Abstentions are valid votes in JTC1, will not count in the tally

 

5.                Ballots

5.1.           Letter ballot response rate is unacceptable

5.2.           Ballots to vote :

Doc. #

Subject

Source

Date

Vote

L2/01-362
LB-01-362

Letter ballot: Request to Include Annex A of
ISO/IEC TR 10176 on the ITTF Website

SC22 N3326
SC22/WG20 N885

2001-10-05

YES

L2/01-363
LB-01-363

Letter Ballot on Future of SC 22/WG 20 (Internationalization)

SC22 N3327
SC22/WG20 N886

2001-10-05

Opt. 1

L2/01-364
LB-01-364

Letter Ballot on Withdrawal of Project
JTC1.22.15435 - APIs for Internationalization

SC22 N3328
SC22/WG20 N887

2001-10-05

YES

L2/01-365
LB-01-365

Letter Ballot on Establishment of Liaison between SC22 and the IETF

SC22 N3329
SC22/WG20 N888

2001-10-05

YES

L2/01-366
LB-01-366

Letter Ballot on Revision of ISO/IEC TR 10176 - Guidelines for the Preparation of Programming Language Standards

SC22 N3330
SC22/WG20 N889

2001-10-05

YES

 All votes were unanimous.

Action item:  Ken Whistler comment on L2/01-362

 

5.3.           Ballot reports:

 

Doc. #

Subject

Source

Date

Vote

L2/01-373
LB-01-373

CT22 ballot:  ISO/IEC DIS 20970 – JEFF file format
(with comments from Rex Jaeschke)

CT22, Rex Jaeschke
ISO/IEC DIS 20970

2001-05-31

YES

 

5.4.           Requests for comments on registration :

none

5.5.           Comments on registrations

none

 

6.                CLAUI meeting in Paris

L2/01-424

CLAUI Meeting announcement for Paris,
December 11-12, 2001

SC22 N3335

2001-10-19

I18N

 See 8.1

7.                Voting on joint UTC/L2 meeting recommendations [01-404]

The motions from the combined meeting were approved

8.                Delegates to SC2 and SC22/WG20 meetings

8.1.           CLAUI meeting in Paris, December 11-12, 2001

L2/01-424

CLAUI Meeting announcement for Paris,
December 11-12, 2001

SC22 N3335

2001-10-19

I18N

 Nobody is able to attend this meeting

8.2.           IRG meeting in Tokyo, December 3-7, 2001

L2 needs to approve the L2 delegates and inform NCITS.

John Jenkins, Hideki Hiura?

Action item:  Lisa ask Hideki, if he will be attend the IRG in Tokyo

9.                Other

9.1.           Commments on ISO/IEC 2375 proposed disposition of comments

L2/01-401

Disposition of comments to ISO/IEC 2375-2

Michael Everson
SC2 N3567

2001-10-22

13-M

L2/01-436

Draft US Comments on Draft of DIS 2375,
dated 2001-10-25

Ed Hart

2001-10-31

13-M

L2/01-437

Flow of registration according to  ISO 2375

Ed Hart

2001-10-31

13-M

 

9.2.           Unicode in Programming Languages

This is important – UTC and L2 need to invite selected people from the US TAGs to programming language committees for a frank discussion on the use of Unicode in programming language standards (data type?, identifiers?, case mapping?, sort?, equivalences? …)

Action item: Lisa will ask Sandra to lead the discussion.

9.3.           Hebrew/Aramaic

So far no request or report.

9.4.           Plan for a UTC Meeting with Assyriological/Cuneiform specialists

 No action at this meeting.

9.5      ANSI/NISO Z39.47 ANSEL

Action item:  Joan will send a notice to Unicode/Unicore about the availability of ANSI/NISO standards

10.           Adjournment