If there are specific areas where the BIDI algorithm has flaws, that should
be communicated to the UTC bidi subcommittee, ideally with a proposal to fix
the problem.
Mark
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael (michka) Kaplan" <michka@trigeminal.com>
To: "Unicode List" <unicode@unicode.org>
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 13:53
Subject: Re: lag time in Unicode implementations in OS, etc?
> I agree 100%, and I could make the same argument for surrogate support in
> SQL Server 2000 (i.e. there are no characters, so support is not relevant
at
> ship time) but since I cannot ever state with certanty what the next
version
> of products (i.e. Whistler or Yukon) will support, I do not want to fall
in
> the trap of making excuses now which would not be true next time.
>
> The general rule that "support" is a difficult attribute to capture and my
> example about the Unicode Bidi algorithm is hardly contrived, since many
> products are technically non-compliant, but in ways that I tend to agree
> with the differences and not with the algorithm.
>
> michka
>
> a new book on internationalization in VB at
> http://www.i18nWithVB.com/
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carl W. Brown" <cbrown@xnetinc.com>
> To: "Unicode List" <unicode@unicode.org>
> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 1:20 PM
> Subject: RE: lag time in Unicode implementations in OS, etc?
>
>
> > Michka,
> >
> > I would not expect Windows 2000 to support Unicode 3.0 especially since
> the
> > final build of W2K was sent manufacturing in November of 1999 too late
for
> > Unicode 3.0. Even if it had come out earlier in 1999 it would have been
> > difficult to implement late in the development cycle unless the changes
> were
> > minor.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael (michka) Kaplan [mailto:michka@trigeminal.com]
> > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 10:15 AM
> > To: Unicode List
> > Subject: Re: lag time in Unicode implementations in OS, etc?
> >
> >
> > Windows NT's latest version, Windows 2000, does not support Unicode 3.0.
> > There are many scripts for which no keyboards exist, and which do not
even
> > have fonts or shaping rules for rendering.
> >
> > When it comes out is a generic question, so I will give you a generic
> > answer: when they get the work done! :-) I do not know of a central
place
> > that lists who supports what version of Unicode is kept, and it might be
a
> > pretty monstrous thing to keep track of since it is a "per product"
thing.
>
> >
> > Plus, there are other details: if Mozilla or IE chooses not to support a
> > specific tenet of the Unicode Bidi algorithm, does that mean it is not
> > compliant? If an OS has no keyboard or fonts for Ethiopic languages,
does
> > that mean it is not? And if a word processor does not support shaping
> rules
> > for the Tibetan script or Sinhala, is it not?
> >
> > michka
> >
> > a new book on internationalization in VB at
> > http://www.i18nWithVB.com/
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Elaine Keown" <keown@altavista.com>
> > To: "Unicode List" <unicode@unicode.org>
> > Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 9:57 AM
> > Subject: lag time in Unicode implementations in OS, etc?
> >
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I'm writing to inquire about the "lag time" between when Unicode 3.0
hit
> > the street and when implementations in Windows NT, software tools,
fonts,
> > etc. came out? Does stuff usually come out within 3 months, 6 months,
?
> > >
> > > Is there a central URL that keeps track of implementations, so you can
> > call it up and find out what OS, tool, etc has already implemented 3.0,
> 3.2?
> > >
> > > Also, if I just can't wait for Unicode 4.0, are there suggestions for
> how
> > to put the characters I'm waiting for into some block? I would like to
> > start programming soon with text markup symbols that I hope will be
> formally
> > available in 4.0 or maybe 3.2, whatever. I may need them for a thesis
> > project, for a text-processing algorithm.............. Is there a
> procedure
> > to do this?
> > >
> > > Thanks, Elaine
> > >
> > >
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