Re: Hindi characters for transcribing the sound "e"

From: Mark Davis (mark@macchiato.com)
Date: Mon Jan 14 2002 - 17:39:30 EST


Excuse me, it is reliable; you just didn't read very carefully. I will try
to emphasize this to make it more clear to you.
  There are two different processes: transliteration (which is by letter,
irrespective of sounds produced by those letters) and transscription (which
is by sound, irrespective of letters used to produce those sounds).
  If transliteration is what you mean, ...
The transliteration follows the ISCII standard, which uses "d" for द् and
uses "ḍ" (d with dot-below) for ड्.

Mark
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Πόλλ’ ἠπίστατο ἔργα, κακῶς δ’ ἠπίστατο πάντα — Ὁμήρου Μαργίτῃ
[For transliteration, see http://oss.software.ibm.com/cgi-bin/icu/tr]

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  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Aman Chawla
  To: Mark Davis ; Unicode
  Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 14:14
  Subject: Re: Hindi characters for transcribing the sound "e"

  The Demo doesn't seem to be particularly reliable. For instance, the
following English words, all have the same vowel sound: red, said, dead,
led, shed, fed. However, the Demo gave the following Latin-Devanagari
outputs: रॆद् , सैद् , दॆअद् , लॆद् , शॆद् , फ़ॆद्

  First of all the ending 'd' sound in all the English words is ड् and not
द् as given by the demo. Secondly, though 'said' and 'red' have the same
vowel sound (not character, but sound), the demo gave two different Hindi
diacritics. Hindi is phonetic and so each diacritic has one and only one
sound.

  I am looking for transscription (by sound) of the "e" sound in bed, red,
get etc. into a Hindi character.
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Mark Davis
    To: Aman Chawla ; Unicode
    Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 9:04 PM
    Subject: Re: Hindi characters for transcribing the sound "e"

    There are two different processes: transliteration (which is by letter)
and transscription (which is by sound).

    If transliteration is what you mean, I just checked with the ICU online
demo at http://oss.software.ibm.com/cgi-bin/icu/tr, and "e" is
transliterated as U+090E "ऎ" DEVANAGARI LETTER SHORT E*. ICU transliteration
for Devanagari is based on ISCII (for the exact composition, see the last
section of http://oss.software.ibm.com/icu/userguide/Transliteration.html,
called "Script Transliteration Sources".

    Mark

    * I use the demo fairly often simply to get hex converted to and from
characters, and characters converted to and from names.

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    Πόλλ’ ἠπίστατο ἔργα, κακῶς δ’ ἠπίστατο πάντα — Ὁμήρου Μαργίτῃ
    [For transliteration, see http://oss.software.ibm.com/cgi-bin/icu/tr]

    http://www.macchiato.com

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Aman Chawla
      To: Unicode
      Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 05:48
      Subject: Hindi characters for transcribing the sound "e"

      With reference to the FAQ:
http://www.unicode.org/unicode/faq/indic.html#13, I would like to know what
are the Hindi characters used to transcribe the sound "e" (as in English
"bet", "bed", "red" etc.) in Unicode.
      Thanks



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