Re: Historians- what is origin of i18n, l10n, etc.?

From: Tex Texin (tex@i18nguy.com)
Date: Thu Oct 10 2002 - 19:34:45 EDT

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    Mark,
    that's good to know. I never worked with Apple and so have no Apple doc
    in my collection.

    However, the W0e below is a violation of the encoding and is a security
    risk. I think the algorithm calls for the shortest string, so people
    can't sneak in extra nulls- W0e W00e, etc.

    ;-)

    tex

    Mark Davis wrote:
    >
    > We used the term "internationalization" in Apple in late 85. We might have
    > also used it earlier than that, I don't remember.
    >
    > W0e n3r u2d t1e g1d-a3l, g3y a1d o5e a10n "i18n", h5r!
    >
    > Mark
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    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Tex Texin" <tex@i18nguy.com>
    > To: "Barry Caplan" <bcaplan@i18n.com>
    > Cc: "Rick McGowan" <rick@unicode.org>; <unicode@unicode.org>
    > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 13:14
    > Subject: Re: Historians- what is origin of i18n, l10n, etc.?
    >
    > > >From the books I looked at this morning, the term "localization" was
    > > very much in use in the late 80s by most vendors.
    > > It seems "internationalization" came later, and was more vendor specific
    > > until 92/93.
    > > Then came i18n.
    > > then came l10n, g11n, e13n (europeanization), j10n (japanization)...
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Barry Caplan wrote:
    > > >
    > > > At 08:35 AM 10/10/2002 -0700, Rick wrote:
    > > > >The earliest reference I can find to "i18n" in my old e-mail trail is
    > the
    > > > >following e-mail to the "sun!unicode" mail list by Glenn Wright. This
    > was
    > > > >Oct 5, 1989. By that time, the term was definitely current, as Mr.
    > Hiura
    > > > >suggests.
    > > >
    > > > I registered i18n.com around 94 or so, and the fellow, whose name I am
    > trying hard to recall (first name JR, Australian or British IIRC, red hair),
    > seemed to indicate the coinage was quite some time before that and he was
    > very surprised when I told him how extensive the usage was by then.
    > > >
    > > > I'm a jonny-come-lately when it comes to unix and other standards
    > history... is there an searchable archive of windows standards anywhere? How
    > about a cvs server of code? It seems to me that i18n or variants could have
    > made it into code as a function name almost immediately, or possibly even
    > before being put into a standards doc....
    > > >
    > > > It seems to me that l10n was extant by the time I came to CA ~ 1992.
    > > >
    > > > Perhaps Ken Lunde can shed some light - he surely came across a lot of
    > early docs while writing his first book, which was a republication of an
    > online archive he maintained I think.
    > > >
    > > > Barry
    > >
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