From: Peter Kirk (peterkirk@qaya.org)
Date: Thu Dec 18 2003 - 18:11:45 EST
On 18/12/2003 11:35, John Hudson wrote:
> At 03:54 AM 12/18/2003, Peter Kirk wrote:
>
>> Did you see my posting with the extract:
>>
>>> TÜRK *MİLLÎ* KODLANDIRMA SİSTEMİ. *...* . *Millî* Kodlandırma
>>> Sisteminin temelini ...
>>
>>
>> This is from a Turkish government site which comes up when I do a
>> Google search on "millî", but the site itself doesn't seem to be
>> available. You will find that the spellings "millî" (19,600 Google
>> matches) and "milli" (709,000 matches, but not all are Turkish) are
>> interchangeable, but "millı" is rare (52 matches) and so probably an
>> error. Note the following for "National Education Ministry":
>>
>> "Milli Eğitim Bakanlığı" - 22,100 matches
>> "Millî Eğitim Bakanlığı" - 1,270 matches
>> "Millı Eğitim Bakanlığı" - 3 matches
>
I hope you were able to see this as I sent it in UTF-8 (and clearly
labelled "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed" in the
copy I received back) and not only in this mojibake.
>>
>> My Turkish-English dictionary gives only "milli". For the grammar and
>> orthography, http://www.cromwell-intl.com/turkish/Index.html is a
>> basic reference.
>
>
> I am very wary about relying on web resources for such things, since
> one is often dealing with pages that are working within technical
> limitations and so do not reflect traditional typographic practice.
> But thanks for the information (I missed the earlier message because I
> have not been following this thread very closely): I'll remember to
> look into this next time I am up at the university library.
>
Understood. The websites I quote include Turkish government ones. But
this does reflect current web practice rather than traditional
typography. For the latter, you need to find resources which I don't
have immediately available. In fact you probably need to ask a Turkish
typographer. I'm afraid I don't know any! If it helps, in the banner
heading of http://www.meb.gov.tr/index1024.htm there is an I with
circumflex but no dot in an image, so not dependent on web limitations.
-- Peter Kirk peter@qaya.org (personal) peterkirk@qaya.org (work) http://www.qaya.org/
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