From: Mike Ayers (mike.ayers@tumbleweed.com)
Date: Fri May 14 2004 - 13:13:46 CDT
> From: unicode-bounce@unicode.org [mailto:unicode-bounce@unicode.org]On
> Behalf Of Dean Snyder
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2004 5:05 AM
> Kenneth Whistler wrote at 2:50 PM on Thursday, May 13, 2004:
>
> >
> >> > One normalization script could be used any number of
> times. Clip,
> >> >normalize, sort - repeat as necessary.
> >>
> >> Multiply that times the number of independent researchers
> and separate
> >> projects...
> >
> >... and you get a thousand different requirements, each of which
> >should be addressed with appropriate levels of programming tools.
>
> ... that are solved now by a single default process requiring
> no end user
> fiddling.
Ah! You embrace normalization at last!
> >What gives you the slightest hope that *every* researcher's
> >particular needs for searching and sorting can be baked into
> >some *default* collation element weighting table? The whole point
> >is to provide a mechanism for people to *tailor* it as they choose
> >to meet *different* requirements.
>
> No, that is not the whole point - there is also the point
> that 90% of our
> work, which is done now by simple, default processes, would, all of a
> sudden, require custom tailoring.
So what you're telling us is that you're more text sorter than
linguist, yes? Call me skeptical, but I really doubt that most linguists
spend 90 percent of their time sorting text.
> >> Why make something we do all the time more difficult and
> non-standard,
> >> when what we do now works very well?
You are implying that what you do now is standardized. My
impression so far is that it is not.
> >Nobody plans to take away your rights and ability to continue
> >doing what you now do, if it works very well for you. Please,
> >sir, continue doing what you are doing with your current data. :-)
>
> It's incredible to me that you and others keep repeating this mantra,
> ignoring the fact (repeated for the nth time) that we will
> all be forced,
> in our separate research projects, to deal with MULTIPLE,
> COMPETING encodings.
Wehave heard how many times that you already deal with multiple
competing encodings - Unicode, web Hebrew, transliteration, etc. It is you
who are ignoring the fact that killing the Phoenician proposal will not
change that.
/|/|ike
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