From: Maher Alnubani (maher.al-nubani@oracle.com)
Date: Mon Mar 08 2010 - 21:39:30 CST
On 3/5/2010 9:08 PM, Khaled Hosny wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 03:45:54PM -0800, Maher Alnubani wrote:
>
>> On 3/5/2010 2:11 PM, CE Whitehead wrote:
>>
>> Hi, thanks very much. You did answer my questions. I still have one
>> more question: would any literate Arabic speaker always type the tanween
>> al-fatah logically after the aleph seat?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> (Because of course the tanween al-fatah, unlike Arabic vowel diacritics
>> elsewhere, should precede the aleph consonant seat in a visual display and
>> not follow it--that is, in an rtl context, it should be displayed slightly
>> to the right of the aleph--that is how I was taught and indeed how it
>> appears in the combined character in the Unicode extended characters, and
>> indeed that is how it appears when I type it in following the aleph [and of
>> course, it appears this way when I type it in before too].)
>>
>> Well, TANWEEN AL-FATH normally appears on top of the ALEF (or the TAH MARBUTAH)
>> not before or after it. But, in standard Arabic writing TANWEEN is the last
>> thing to write in a word.
>>
>
> Not true, this is actually is debatable. Though the wide practice today
> is to type the tanween after the alef (thus on top of it), still many
> people type it before the alef since the preceding letter is the actual
> seat of tanween (i.e. treating all tanween the same wither it is fath or
> not).
In this case the TANWEEN will appear on the letter preceding the ALEF. I
do not see any problem here.
> Traditionally, in hand written calligraphy, tanween al-fath comes
> to the write of the alef, thus essentially preceding not following it.
>
Please see http://www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vb/showthread.php?t=127442 (In
Arabic, though).
> Regards,
> Khaled
>
>
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