Re: Plese add a Chinese Hanzi

From: Philippe Verdy <verdy_p_at_wanadoo.fr>
Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 19:36:45 +0200

How do you name that fish ? Danio or Devario ?

An then how do you transliterate this phonetically in Chinese if you
can't use the two ideographs in a simple row ?

Note that the term "Danio" is vernacular" and now deprecated, the
classification has changed (and is still a research in progress)... So
the important thing is how you would name it (and transcript it
phonetically, in Pinyin for example) in Chinese for the vernacular
usage. If this name is in fact not vernacular but comes from an old
scientific classification, it probably better be named using its
scientific Latin name, and there's no establisehd distinct word for
these species in the vernacular language (e.g. in shops or magazines
for aquariophiles, where the Latin names are probably displayed).

2012/5/28 Charlie Ruland <ruland_at_luckymail.com>:
> * John H. Jenkins <jenkins_at_apple.com> [2012-05-28 20:54]:
>
>
> On 2012年5月28日, at 上午10:21, Charlie Ruland <ruland_at_luckymail.com> wrote:
>
> Zhao,
> 1. If the character 鱼⿰丹 that you would like to have encoded is a
> contemporary Standard Chinese word or morpheme, then what is its
> pronunciation?
>
>
> FWIW, the correct syntax is ⿰鱼丹.  I take it that he would also like ⿰魚丹.
>
>
> Right. 鱼⿰丹 is the syntax I sometimes use when teaching Chinese characters,
> whereas ⿰鱼丹 is Unicode. Sorry for the mess!
> Charlie
>
>
>
> 2. Can you provide material (for example photos, scans from books, etc.)
> that clearly shows that 鱼⿰丹 is used as a single character? By which group of
> people is it used?
>
>
> Exactly.  *No* hanzi will be added to Unicode/ISO 10646 without solid
> evidence of actual use. Generally, this means authoritative, printed
> materials (a dictionary, government ID). Handwritten materials could
> conceivably be used, but they would have to be awfully convincing.
> Well-known websites with the character embedded *as a graphic* has been used
> as a past, but in those cases the character was quite well-known.
>
>
> Charlie
>
> * shi zhao <shizhao_at_gmail.com> [2012-05-28 17:07]:
>
> PS:
>  zh-hans:  鱼+丹
> zh-hant: 魚+丹
>
>
> 2012/5/28 shi zhao <shizhao_at_gmail.com>
>>
>> Plese add a Hanzi to Unihan: a fish name 鱼+丹 = Danio.
>>
>> see:
>>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danio
>> https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:%28%E9%AD%9A%E4%B8%B9%29%E5%B1%AC
>> http://www.cnffd.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=3_11_64_284
>> http://zd1.brim.ac.cn/Mnamelist.asp?start=1982
>> http://hello.area.com.tw/is_bs.cgi?areacode=nt097&bsid=2.9.1.1.3
>> https://www.google.com/search?q=Danio+ 魚丹
>>
>>
>> Chinese wikipedia: http://zh.wikipedia.org/
>> My blog: http://shizhao.org
>> twitter: https://twitter.com/shizhao
>>
>> [[zh:User:Shizhao]]
>>
>
>
> =====
> Hoani H. Tinikini
> John H. Jenkins
> jenkins_at_apple.com
>
>
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