Re: Persian counter styles

On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Behnam Rassi <behnam_at_me.com> wrote:

> It is right in terms of what is being used. It is wrong linguistically.
> Heh Havvaz (from Abjad alphabet) is not even Heh Dochashmee although it
> looks similar. But it should be a non-joining character altogether.
>

The distinction made here between Abjad Heh and Arabic Heh is unknown to
me. What makes Abjad Heh different from ARABIC LETTER HEH INITIAL FORM
(U+FEEB)?

On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Khaled Hosny <khaledhosny_at_eglug.org>
wrote:

> I don’t know about Persian, but in Arabic isolated Heh is not used in
> math or lists is it can be confused with Arabic-Indic digit five, and
> instead it is always used in initial form in such situations.

I don't believe that the potential confusability between Arabic-Indic digit
five and stand-alone Heh implies that it should not be used in writing
math. See the mathematical charts (e.g. [1]) with Abjad numeral values in
this manuscript in Arabic on astronomy[2] from 18th century. A modern
approach might decide to avoid that usage, but it should not be elevated to
an orthographic rule.

[1]: http://pudl.princeton.edu/viewer.php?obj=r781wg07m#page/141/mode/2up
[2]: http://pudl.princeton.edu/objects/r781wg07m

↪ Shervin

On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 3:46 PM, Behnam Rassi <behnam_at_me.com> wrote:

> It is right in terms of what is being used. It is wrong linguistically.
> Heh Havvaz (from Abjad alphabet) is not even Heh Dochashmee although it
> looks similar. But it should be a non-joining character altogether.
> -behnam
>
> > On Feb 23, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Richard Ishida <ishida_at_w3.org> wrote:
> >
> > at
> http://www.w3.org/TR/2015/WD-predefined-counter-styles-20150203/#arabic-styles
> there are two fixed counter styles for Persian which use the sequence
> >
> > U+0647 ARABIC LETTER HEH
> > U+200D ZERO WIDTH JOINER
> >
> > i was wondering whether this is right, or whether that item should
> actually be
> >
> > U+06BE ARABIC LETTER HEH DOACHASHMEE
> >
> >
> > does anyone know?
> >
> > ri
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