Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

Since the double-diamond has map and map legend usage, it might be a good
idea to have it encoded separately. I know that I'm stating the obvious
here, but the important point is doing the research and showing that it has
widespread usage.

↪ Shervin

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Shawn Steele <Shawn.Steele_at_microsoft.com>
wrote:

> I’m used to them being next to each other. So the entire discussion
> seems to be about how to encode a concept vs how to get the shape you want
> with existing code points. If you just want the perfect shape, then maybe
> an svg is a better choice. If we’re talking about describing ski-run
> difficulty levels in plain-text, then the hodge-podge of glyphs being
> offered in this thread seems kinda hacky to me.
>
>
>
> -Shawn
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>
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> *From:* verdyp_at_gmail.com [mailto:verdyp_at_gmail.com] *On Behalf Of *Philippe
> Verdy
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:12 PM
> *To:* Jim Melton
> *Cc:* Shawn Steele; unicode Unicode Discussion
> *Subject:* Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski
> pistes for novices
>
>
>
> Some documentations also suggest that the two diamonds are not stacked one
> above the other, but horizontally. It's a good point for using only one
> symbol, encoding it twice in plain-text if needed.
>
>
>
> 2015-05-28 22:15 GMT+02:00 Jim Melton <jim.melton_at_oracle.com>:
>
> I no longer ski, but I did so for many years, mostly (but not
> exclusively) in the western United States. I never encountered, at any USA
> ski hill/mountain/resort, a special symbol for "bunny hills", which are
> typically represented by the green circle meaning "beginner". That's
> anecdotal evidence at best, but my observations cover numerous skiing
> sites. I have encountered such a symbol in Europe and in New Zealand, but
> not in the USA. (I have not had the pleasure of skiing in Canada and am
> thus unable to speak about ski areas in that country.)
>
> The double black diamond would appear to be a unique symbol worthy of
> encoding, simply because the only valid typographical representation (in
> the USA) is two single black diamonds stacked one above the other and
> touching at the points.
>
> Hope this helps,
> Jim
>
>
> On 5/28/2015 2:04 PM, Shawn Steele wrote:
>
> So is double black diamond a separate symbol? Or just two of the black
> diamond?
>
>
>
> And Blue-Black?
>
>
>
> I’m drawing a blank on a specific bunny sign, in my experience those are
> usually just green.
>
>
>
> Aren’t there a lot of cartography symbols for various systems that aren’t
> present in Unicode?
>
>
>
> *From:* Unicode [mailto:unicode-bounces_at_unicode.org
> <unicode-bounces_at_unicode.org>] *On Behalf Of *Philippe Verdy
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:47 PM
> *To:* unicode Unicode Discussion
> *Subject:* "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes
> for novices
>
>
>
> Is there a symbol that can represent the "Bunny hill" symbol used in North
> America and some other American territories with mountains, to designate
> the ski pistes open to novice skiers (those pistes are signaled with green
> signs in Europe).
>
>
>
> I'm looking for the symbol itself, not the color, or the form of the sign.
>
>
>
> For example blue pistes in Europe are designed with a green circle in
> America, but we have a symbol for the circle; red pistes in Europe are
> signaled by a blue square in America, but we have a symbol for the square;
> black pistes in Europe are signaled by a black diamond in America, but we
> also have such "black" diamond in Unicode.
>
>
>
> But I can't find an equivalent to the American "Bunny hill" signal,
> equivalent to green pistes in Europe (this is a problem for webpages
> related to skiing: do we have to embed an image ?).
>
>
>
>
>
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