Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for novices

Being used in maps and map legends is not a sufficient condition for
encoding a symbol. If it were, all symbols used in physical maps would
have been encoded, including each and every mineral and rare metal.

Leo

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:20 PM, Shervin Afshar <shervinafshar_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Since the double-diamond has map and map legend usage, it might be a good
> idea to have it encoded separately. I know that I'm stating the obvious
> here, but the important point is doing the research and showing that it has
> widespread usage.
>
> ↪ Shervin
>
> On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Shawn Steele <Shawn.Steele_at_microsoft.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> I’m used to them being next to each other. So the entire discussion seems
>> to be about how to encode a concept vs how to get the shape you want with
>> existing code points. If you just want the perfect shape, then maybe an
>> svg is a better choice. If we’re talking about describing ski-run
>> difficulty levels in plain-text, then the hodge-podge of glyphs being
>> offered in this thread seems kinda hacky to me.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Shawn
>>
>>
>>
>> From: verdyp_at_gmail.com [mailto:verdyp_at_gmail.com] On Behalf Of Philippe
>> Verdy
>> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 2:12 PM
>> To: Jim Melton
>> Cc: Shawn Steele; unicode Unicode Discussion
>> Subject: Re: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes
>> for novices
>>
>>
>>
>> Some documentations also suggest that the two diamonds are not stacked one
>> above the other, but horizontally. It's a good point for using only one
>> symbol, encoding it twice in plain-text if needed.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2015-05-28 22:15 GMT+02:00 Jim Melton <jim.melton_at_oracle.com>:
>>
>> I no longer ski, but I did so for many years, mostly (but not exclusively)
>> in the western United States. I never encountered, at any USA ski
>> hill/mountain/resort, a special symbol for "bunny hills", which are
>> typically represented by the green circle meaning "beginner". That's
>> anecdotal evidence at best, but my observations cover numerous skiing sites.
>> I have encountered such a symbol in Europe and in New Zealand, but not in
>> the USA. (I have not had the pleasure of skiing in Canada and am thus
>> unable to speak about ski areas in that country.)
>>
>> The double black diamond would appear to be a unique symbol worthy of
>> encoding, simply because the only valid typographical representation (in the
>> USA) is two single black diamonds stacked one above the other and touching
>> at the points.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>> Jim
>>
>>
>> On 5/28/2015 2:04 PM, Shawn Steele wrote:
>>
>> So is double black diamond a separate symbol? Or just two of the black
>> diamond?
>>
>>
>>
>> And Blue-Black?
>>
>>
>>
>> I’m drawing a blank on a specific bunny sign, in my experience those are
>> usually just green.
>>
>>
>>
>> Aren’t there a lot of cartography symbols for various systems that aren’t
>> present in Unicode?
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Unicode [mailto:unicode-bounces_at_unicode.org] On Behalf Of Philippe
>> Verdy
>> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:47 PM
>> To: unicode Unicode Discussion
>> Subject: "Bunny hill" symbol, used in America for signaling ski pistes for
>> novices
>>
>>
>>
>> Is there a symbol that can represent the "Bunny hill" symbol used in North
>> America and some other American territories with mountains, to designate the
>> ski pistes open to novice skiers (those pistes are signaled with green signs
>> in Europe).
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm looking for the symbol itself, not the color, or the form of the sign.
>>
>>
>>
>> For example blue pistes in Europe are designed with a green circle in
>> America, but we have a symbol for the circle; red pistes in Europe are
>> signaled by a blue square in America, but we have a symbol for the square;
>> black pistes in Europe are signaled by a black diamond in America, but we
>> also have such "black" diamond in Unicode.
>>
>>
>>
>> But I can't find an equivalent to the American "Bunny hill" signal,
>> equivalent to green pistes in Europe (this is a problem for webpages related
>> to skiing: do we have to embed an image ?).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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