Pahawh Hmong (was re: Latin w/diacritics)

From: James Kass (jameskass@worldnet.att.net)
Date: Wed Apr 18 2001 - 17:30:25 EDT


Edward Cherlin wrote:

> >Pahawh Hmong.. PUA... HTML...
> >... Inappropriate line breaks are one problem.
>
> I gather you have tried it. Could you provide an example? HTML code,
> and images of what it should look like and what some browser does to
> it? If you have a freely distributable font, I would like a copy or a
> pointer to a download site as well.
> --

Yes, this was tried in March of 2000 on Win 95. Opened the
test HTML file again this morning on Win ME. The same
display problems exist.

I'd found a Hmong web site which used the RPA system
orthography and wrote a simple (DOS-based) program to
convert the web page into Pahawh Hmong using a PUA
scheme. Testing was abandoned due to the display issues.

Lines break irregularly in MSIE 5.5, perhaps due to the
difference between the actual advance widths which
would comprise a line and the average advance width
based precalculation which the browser 'thinks' will
make a full line. Close to 50% of the characters in a run
of text here will be zero-width combiners, and this
could easily skew any precalculation. However, the space
character is ignored for line breaks, the rime is broken
arbitrarily. In some cases a line break is inserted between
the combining diacritic and its base letter.

The web page which was converted is copyrighted material,
and I don't have anyone's permission to use it. I am forwarding
a copy of the converted page to Edward Cherlin off-list along
with the request that the page not be distributed.

If anyone would like to see the RPA Hmong web site, you don't
need any special fonts, it's conformant:
The home page with links in Hmong and English:
http://www.hmongnet.org/

and a direct link to the index page in Hmong:
http://www.hmongnet.org/inhmong/index.html

Best regards,

James Kass.



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