Re: Scripts in Unicode 4.0

From: Doug Ewell (
Date: Thu Aug 15 2002 - 02:17:16 EDT

John Hudson <tiro at tiro dot com> wrote:

> Love the HOT BEVERAGE character, but where's the TALL LOWFAT SOYMILK
> MOCHA FRAPPUCCINO? Come on guys, there's enough blank spaces in that
> block for the entire Starbucks beverage menu, especially if you treat
> things like EXTRA FOAM as a combining character.

As a little background, in the North Korean proposal to add characters
from KPS 9566-97 to ISO/IEC 10646 (WG2 N2374, 2001-09-03), HOT BEVERAGE
was originally called TEA SYMBOL and was described as being used to show
"that there is tea room in resting place on the map." The symbol was
accepted, at least up to this point (FPDAM ballot), but the name was
generalized (perhaps at the behest of American coffee-drinking interests

Which reminds me of some of the other characters in the DPRK proposal:

The two North Korean national symbols, HAMMER AND SICKLE AND BRUSH and
CIRCLED HAMMER AND SICKLE AND BRUSH, were described as being "used in
identifying symbols in map." Since any map of North Korea and vicinity
would clearly show the current borders, skeptical people like me are
left to wonder what locations could possibly need to be identified with
a North Korean symbol. (These symbols apparently were not accepted.)

The innocuous-looking WHITE FLAG and BLACK FLAG were described as being
"used in Marking battle place and the position where victory is gained."
Considering the ongoing status of the Korean conflict and the almost
single-minded North Korean focus on its immediate history, skeptical
people like me are left to conclude the "victory" is over South Korea.
These flag characters were accepted and will probably find widespread
use in other contexts, but their politically charged origin is a bit

Certainly, some of these characters are "controversial" in a manner
entirely different from, say, CGJ.

-Doug Ewell
 Fullerton, California

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