Re: three questions about alphabet files at Michael Everson site

From: Charles Levert (charles.levert@gmail.com)
Date: Fri Nov 11 2005 - 18:21:23 CST

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    Thanks for the clarification, Marc.
    Most of this is genuinely new to me.

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    * On Friday 2005-11-11 at 23:43:07 +0100, Marc Bruguières wrote:
    >
    > Charles Levert:
    > > * On Thursday 2005-11-10 at 20:37:05 +0100, Chris Jacobs wrote:
    > > > Charles Levert wrote:
    > > > > maelström (mot néerlandais), also spelled malstrom
    > > >
    > > > I am dutch and I am rather surprised to see that maelström is a mot
    > > > néerlandais.
    > > > I always thought it was a scandinavian word.
    >
    > In its current spelling but it comes from
    > “maalstroom” in Dutch, the old Dutch spelling asserted
    > in 1595 was “maelstrom”. All from the Robert historique
    > de la langue française.
    >
    > As you will no doubt know “ae” is an old Dutch
    > spelling of “aa” (long a), often seen in the Flemish
    > names in French speaking area (Schaerbeek in “French”
    > around Brussels, or people's name like “Michel de
    > Swaen”, or Jean Bart (“Jan Baert” in West-Flemish, he
    > was from Dunkirk) the famous sailor who was so successful
    > against first the Dutch, then the English).
    >
    > http://www.schaerbeek.org/
    > http://www.flandres.net/fherry_fr.asp
    > http://perso.wanadoo.fr/jean-bart/Accueil/Accueil.html
    > http://seeten.univ-littoral.fr/q_jbart.htm
    >
    > “Maal/malen” means something in Dutch I believe
    > (according to my French dictionary), what does “mael”
    > mean in Norwegian”
    >
    > > So did I! :-)
    > > I was blindly citing my trusty (?) old “petit Larousse illustré 1981”.
    > > It may have been corrected since.
    >
    > No need, I think. My Oxford English Dictionary also
    > ascribes it ultimately to Dutch.
    >
    >
    > > > Is the ö supposed to be an o umlaut or an o diaeresis?
    > >
    > > I don't know for sure, but the absence of another
    > > vowel next to it makes me lean towards umlaut.
    >
    > Umlaut if it changes the sound (um-laut), that's the case here,
    > I think. Although I don't know any Scandinavian language.

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