Re: Unicode - Bengali

From: * Ranju * (ranju_it@hotmail.com)
Date: Wed Apr 17 2002 - 08:22:00 EDT


Dear Arijit Upadhyay & Michael Kaplan:

I'm the author of Alpona Portal (Akshor.com).
Fortunately your mail reached me and I read it. At first I personally thank
you for visiting my site.

I have some comments regarding your mail:

> I chanced on visit this site - http://www.akshor.com, nicely, designed,
'good quality' - hacked bengali fonts but seeingly a very personal way in
dealing with Unicode -Bengali.

::I ditn't understand anything about your "hacked bengali". Our letter
setting typeface that I used in my site is registered by our copyright
authority at 1991. I'm expecting an explanation from you regarding your
words: "hacked bengali".

You may at best say, that is closer to LinoType. But mind it, Bangladesh is
an independant country and Bengali is our official language. So our govt. is
only the authority for (Bangladeshi) Bengali related issue, not LinoType.
Recently I talked to our Bangla Academy the national govt. authority of
Bengali regarding this issue. They are very much interested of that matter
and agree to fight with LinoType by law for un-authorized copyright(??) of
Bengali.

We were (bangladeshi) in a big trouble regarding our Bengali since 1950. But
finally we secured it from Pakistan at 21st Februrary, 1952 by a war. That
is still a pain for us. We were in the same trouble for the implimentation
of Bengali of IT world. That was the time of 1995 we took this project at
our hand and has been updated till 2001.

I think you know the model of Unicode. Because of the complexity of this
model, there was no way (except our way) to process our Bengali without a
script shapping engine and enough application level support. But we must
work for us, we must promote our Bangla.
Microsoft recently added pertial support for Bengali including indic scripts
in their USP. But that is still buggy. Even there is no support for Win9x
kind OS; I know it from my experience and as an active member of VOLT forum.

Anyway, our OpenType project including the Input Method of Bengali will be
released soon. Even we are hardly working to develope a visually hinted
type-setter font of bengali. So, our next edition of Bangla web site will be
very cool looking.

Hope to hear from you.

Cheers,

Ranju
ranju@akshor.com

Author
Alpona Portal
http://www.akshor.com/

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----Original Message Follows----
From: "Michael \(michka\) Kaplan" <michka@trigeminal.com>
To: "Arijit Upadhyay" <arijit@ganashakti.co.in>, "Unicode Mailing
List" <unicode@unicode.org>
Subject: Re: Unicode - Bengali
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 22:50:11 -0700

There is very little on that page that is not explained up at:

http://www.unicode.org/unicode/faq/indic.html

The site you found is basically wrong.

MichKa

Michael Kaplan
Trigeminal Software, Inc. -- http://www.trigeminal.com/

----- Original Message -----
From: "Arijit Upadhyay" <arijit@ganashakti.co.in>
To: "Unicode Mailing List" <unicode@unicode.org>
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 10:19 PM
Subject: Unicode - Bengali

> I chanced on visit this site - http://www.akshor.com, nicely, designed,
> 'good quality' - hacked bengali fonts but seeingly a very personal way in
> dealing with Unicode -Bengali. I found some comments which did not go
with
> my understanding of unicode, such as unicode's responsibility to assign
> spaces fo conjunct and variant characters. Would somebody please give
some
> comments on these so that proper ideas & facts are known.
>
> 1) --"Unicode is the only way of globalization. This is true of Bengali,
as
> well. Bengali is added in Unicode release 2.0 by Unicode Consortium for
the
> process of internationalization. But only our (Bengali) base characters
are
> added in this release. All of combined characters are missing here."
>
> --"Current Unicode standard must be corrected and all necessary combined
> characters must be assigned-added in Unicode. Otherwise this (current
> Unicode standard of Bengali) is useless to us. We hope Unicode Consortium
> will look into this mater and add all necessary (combined) characters and
> symbols in the next earlier release. It will be highly appreciated if
they
> finished this job respectively."
>
> - http://www.akshor.com/project1.html
>
> 2) -- "Unicode Consortium assigned 0980-09FF for Bengali (see previous
> page). But this is not enough to saperate all our characters. Thats why
we
> used the Private Used Area (E100-E4FF) of Unicode for our project to
assign
> & saperate all our characters (excluded in UCS) including extended
> characters/glyps and symbols. "
>
> - http://www.akshor.com/project2.html
>
> regards
> Arijit Upadhyay
>

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