IRG Meeting #64 will be conducted as a virtual meeting that will use Webex as the meeting software. Be sure to update to the latest version of the Webex app prior to the meeting by checking the app for updates or by clicking here.
All dates and times shown are China Standard Time (UTC/GMT+08:00).
Schedule
Monday, March 17, 2025:
1. Opening Speech by Convenor | 08:30 |
2. Administrative Topics | 08:45 |
3. Member Body Activity Reports | 09:00 |
4. Review of Recommendations and Action Items from IRG Meeting #63 | 10:00 |
Break | 10:45 |
6. Urgently Needed Character Proposals | 11:00 |
Tuesday, March 18, 2025:
5. IRG Working Set 2024 Version 2.0 | 08:30 |
Break | 10:15 |
5. IRG Working Set 2024 Version 2.0 (cont’d) | 10:30 |
Wednesday, March 19, 2025:
5. IRG Working Set 2024 Version 2.0 (cont’d) | 08:30 |
Break | 10:15 |
5. IRG Working Set 2024 Version 2.0 (cont’d) | 10:30 |
Thursday, March 20, 2025:
7. Disunification Proposals & Documents | 08:30 |
Break | 10:15 |
8. Horizontal Extension Proposals & Documents | 10:30 |
9. Other Documents | 11:30 |
Friday, March 21, 2025:
10. Final Document Preparation | 08:30 |
Break | 11:15 |
11. Approval of Meeting Recommendations and Action Items | 11:30 |
12. Meeting Adjournment | 12:30 |
Agenda
Agenda Legend
Document number | Documents that have not yet been posted to the IRG document register; also used for tentative meeting dates |
Document title | With the exception of member body activity reports, documents that were submitted after the submission deadline |
✅ | Agenda items that have be completed |
🟡 | Agenda items that need to be revisited, either during this meeting or at the next one |
🔴 | Agenda items that were not discussed |
1. ✅ Opening Speech by Convenor
2. ✅ Administrative Topics
Schedule: Monday
Topics:
2.1 ✅ Roll call
2.2 ✅ Approval of agenda items
2.3 ✅ Review of work planning and future meeting schedule
- ✅ Recommendation IRG M63.01: Future Meeting Schedule (IRG N2702)
- ✅ IRG Meeting #65: Guangzhou, China (hybrid), 2025-10-13/17 — approved by WG 2
- ✅ IRG Meeting #66: Virtual (Webex), 2026-03-16/20 — approved by WG 2
- ✅ IRG Meeting #67: Japan (hybrid), Fall 2026 — tentative hosting by SAT — to be confirmed by SAT and WG 2
- ✅ IRG Meeting #68: Virtual (Webex), 2027-03-15/19 — to be approved by WG 2
- ✅ IRG Meeting #69: Fall 2027 — seeking host
2.4 ✅ Address Book Revision (IRG N2768 & IRG N2769)
2.5 ✅ IWDS Updates
3. ✅ Member Body Activity Reports
Schedule: Monday
4. ✅ Review of Recommendations and Action Items from IRG Meeting #63 (IRG N2702)
Schedule: Monday
Note from WG 2 Convenor: Unicode Version 17.0 is a strict subset of ISO/IEC 10646 7th Edition, meaning that anything that is reflected in the Unicode Version 17.0 Alpha review (2025-02-04 through 2025-04-02) will be incorporated into the next progression of ISO/IEC 10646 7th Edition (aka CD.2). In addition, anything that is reflected in the Unicode Version 17.0 Beta review (2025-05-20 through 2025-07-02) will be incorporated into CD.2 or later. ISO/IEC 10646 7th Edition is also targeting Unicode Version 18.0 (2026).
Topics:
4.1 ✅ M63.04: Updated UCV and NUCV Lists (IRG N2746)
- Current Status: No feedback was received by 2025-02-28, so document IRG N2746 can be confirmed during this meeting.
4.2 ✅ M63.07: Proposal for Unique IRG Source References (IRG N2656 & IRG N2689)
- Current Status: These kIRG_GSource property value changes were fast-tracked by request of the WG 2 Convenor, and are reflected in the Unicode Version 17.0 Alpha review.
- Special Note: The kIRG_GSource property values of three ideographs—U+4E85, U+5570, and U+7CA6—will be reverted to their Unicode Version 16.0 versions per Section 1 of document IRG N2803R2 (see Section 9.1).
4.3 ✅ M63.08: ROK Horizontal Extension (IRG N2643R2)
- Current Status: This ROK horizontal extension is reflected in the Unicode Version 17.0 Alpha review.
4.4 ✅ M63.09: China Horizontal Extension (IRG N2729R2)
- Current Status: Updated as document IRG N2729R3 (see Section 8.2).
4.5 ✅ M63.10: Japan Horizontal Extension (IRG N2722)
- Current Status: See Section 8.1.
4.6 ✅ M63.11: Revised K-Source Representative Glyph (IRG N2745)
- Current Status: This K-source representative glyph change is reflected in the Unicode Version 17.0 Alpha review in the CJK Unified Ideographs Extension F block at code point U+2E23A.
4.7 ✅ M63.12: Revised G- & V-Source Representative Glyphs (IRG N2747 & IRG N2748)
- Current Status: These G- and V-source representative glyph changes are reflected in the Unicode Version 17.0 Alpha review.
- Special Note: Per the bottom of the first page of document IRG N2747, China was to decide whether to disunify U+6B25 or revise its G-source representative glyph, which is resolved in document IRG N2805R2 by choosing the latter (see Section 9.1).
4.8 ✅ M63.13: One Urgently Needed Character—China (IRG N2691)
- Current Status: This Urgently Needed Character is reflected in the Unicode Version 17.0 Alpha review at the end of the CJK Unified Ideographs Extension C block at code point U+2B73B.
4.9 ✅ M63.14: Two Urgently Needed Characters—TCA (IRG N2709)
- Current Status: These Urgently Needed Characters are reflected in the Unicode Version 17.0 Alpha review at the end of the CJK Unified Ideographs Extension C block at code points U+2B73C and U+2B73D.
4.10 ✅ M63.15: Disunification of U+6B25 & U+2335F (IRG N2771)
- Current Status: The disunification of U+2335F and U+2F980 is reflected in the Unicode Version 17.0 Alpha review with a new code point at the end of the CJK Unified Ideographs Extension C block: U+2B73E.
4.11 ✅ M63.16: Updated IRG Disunified Ideographs (IRG N2710)
- Current Status: Updated as document IRG N2710R (see Section 7.1).
4.12 ✅ M63.17: Encoding CJK Components
- Current Status: See document IRG N2799 in Section 9.3.
4.13 ✅ M63.18: Jianzi Musical Notation (IRG N2728)
- Current Status: See documents IRG N2753 and IRG N2799 in Section 6.1 and Section 9.3, respectively.
4.14 ✅ M63.19: Script-Hybrid Han Ideographs
- Current Status: See document IRG N2789 in Section 6.2, and documents IRG N2792 and IRG N2793R in Section 9.3.
5. 🟡 IRG Working Set 2024 Version 2.0
Schedule: Tuesday & Wednesday
Topics:
5.1 ✅ IRG Working Set 2024 Version 2.0 (IRG N2750)
5.2 ✅ IRG Working Set 2024 Version 2.0 Consolidated Comments (IRG N2751)
5.3 ✅ About the unification of proposed complex Hongmen Ideographs in IRG WS2024 (IRG N2770R)
5.4 Specific issues that require attention:
- 🟡 The following 21 G-source ideographs use source references that conflict with kIRG_GSource property values that were updated in Unicode Version 16.0 per document IRG N2679, and should therefore be changed: GDM-00377, GXM-00434, GXM-00435, GXM-00436, GXM-00437, GXM-00438, GXM-00439, GXM-00440, GXM-00441, GXM-00442, GXM-00443, GXM-00444, GXM-00445, GXM-00446, GXM-00447, GXM-00449, GXM-00450, GXM-00451, GXM-00452, GXM-00453, GXM-00454
- ✅ In light of the details in document IRG N2785 (see Section 5.5 below), the UTC requests that the following two U-source ideographs be added back to the M Set: UTC-00777 & UTC-03249
- ✅ The UK requests that the following three postponed UK-source ideographs be added back to the M Set due to sufficient evidence: UK-30620, UK-30621 & UK-30639
5.5 ✅ Some Thoughts on KP1-52B4 & KP1-671B (IRG N2785)
5.6 ✅ Editorial Report (IRG N2766)
6. ✅ Urgently Needed Character Proposals
Schedule: Monday
Topics:
6.1 ✅ China — nine ideographs (IRG N2753)
6.2 ✅ US/Unicode — two ideographs (IRG N2789)
6.3 ✅ China — three ideographs (IRG N2802R2)
7. 🟡 Disunification Proposals & Documents
Schedule: Thursday
Topics:
7.1 ✅ IRG Disunified Ideographs from IRG #45 to IRG #63 (IRG N2710R)
7.2 ✅ Disunification request for 15 characters (IRG N2778)
7.3 🟡 Proposal to Disunify U+2A50D (IRG N2780)
- 🟡 Feedback on IRG N2780 (IRG N2804)
- Current Status: Awaiting feedback from Japan — email sent on 2024-12-27 with follow up email sent on 2025-03-16.
7.4 ✅ Proposal to Disunify U+6138 (IRG N2782)
7.5 ✅ Proposal to Disunify U+FACB and U+2F9FF (IRG N2786)
8. 🔴 Horizontal Extension Proposals & Documents
Schedule: Thursday
Topics:
8.1 🔴 Issues about JMJ Horizontal Extension (IRG N2722 & IRG N2040)
- Current Status: Awaiting feedback from Japan — email sent on 2024-10-25 with follow up email sent on 2025-03-16.
8.2 ✅ G-Source horizontal extensions for 2,145 characters (IRG N2729R3)
- ✅ KR position RE: U+3588 and U+439B (IRG N2794)
8.3 ✅ T-Source Glyph Modification and Horizontal Extension (IRG N2779R2)
9. ✅ Other Documents
Schedule: Thursday
Topics:
9.1 ✅ Representative Glyph & Source Reference Issues
- ✅ Update of V-Source Representative Glyph in Extension J (IRG N2775)
- Current Status: This V-source representative glyph change is reflected in the Unicode Version 17.0 Alpha review. See U+33368 in the CJK Unified Ideographs Extension J code chart.
- ✅ Update of V-Source Representative Glyphs (IRG N2776)
- Current Status: These eight V-source representative glyph changes, along with the three kRSUnicode and three kTotalStrokes property value changes, are reflected in the Unicode Version 17.0 Alpha review. See the CJK Unified Ideographs Extension B and CJK Unified Ideographs Extension C code charts.
- ✅ Clarification Regarding the T-Glyph Issue of U+2B7C2 (IRG N2777)
- ✅ Proposal to Normalize Radical #194 (IRG N2797R)
- ✅ Update of Vietnamese Glyphs with U+620E (nhung) (IRG N2798)
- ✅ Vietnam Response to IRG N2795 (IRG N2801)
- ✅ Request for consideration to normalize 4 V-source characters (IRG N2795)
- ✅ Feedback on IRG N2788 (IRG N2803R2)
- ✅ Feedback on IRG N2743/N2747/N2772R/N2787/N2790 (IRG N2805R2)
- ✅ Feedback on IRG N2730 (IRG N2743)
- ✅ Revised Glyphs of 11 G-Source Characters (IRG N2747)
- ✅ Request to revise the glyphs for 24 G-source ideographs (IRG N2772R)
- ✅ Glyph issues of U+25A5A (IRG N2787)
- ✅ Request for consideration to normalize GZ-1602601 glyph for U+3080C in CJK Ext. G block (IRG N2790)
- ✅ Feedback on IRG N2788/N2806 (IRG N2807)
- ✅ Feedback on IRG N2803 (IRG N2806)
9.2 ✅ IRG P&P Documents
- ✅ Proposal to allow only one kTotalStrokes property value (IRG N2711)
- ✅ Proposal to remove FS (first residual stroke) value from submissions (IRG N2713)
- ✅ Proposal to remove IRG source prefixes from Annex D of IRG P&P (IRG N2714R)
- ✅ Proposal to update Annex K of IRG P&P (IRG N2715R)
- ✅ Proposal on Revising PnP to Enhance the Work Efficiency of IRG (IRG N2734)
- ✅ Feedback to IRG N2734 on IRG's work (IRG N2791)
9.3 ✅ Other Documents
- ✅ KR position on script-hybrid Han ideographs (IRG N2792)
- ✅ Feedback to docs RE: script-hybrid Han ideograph (IRG N2793R)
- ✅ Request for review and endorsement of a preliminary version of the CAAPH IVD collection (IRG N2796R2)
- ✅ Updated proposal to encode CJKV components to UCS (IRG N2799)
9.4 ✅ Editorial Report on Miscellaneous Issues (IRG N2767)
10. Final Document Preparation
Schedule: Friday
11. Approval of Meeting Recommendations and Action Items
Schedule: Friday
Topics:
11.1 ✅ IRG Meeting #64 Recommendations and Action Items (IRG N2765)